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Poster: ggshubin Date: Jul 21, 2012 9:15am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Arsenic and Old Lace

I keep seeing all over online that Arsenic and Old Lace is PD because of failure to properly renew copyright. So naturally I had to go look up the copyright info and here's what I found:


• Arsenic and Old Lace ~ Orig. Reg. October 6, 1944 L12890 Warner Brothers, renewed May 8, 1972

That seems to be in the anniversary window; the original registration date referenced in the renewal is correct. Anyone have any idea what is prompting the PD claim? Would be nice if it were PD. I love that movie! Thanks. :)

Rachel

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Poster: oldbones Date: Jul 21, 2012 9:33am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Arsenic and Old Lace

Possibilities;

Is there a notice in the film? No notice..pd
Is there a valid notice in the film? Invalid notice..pd
Does the notice show the correct year? In this case if the notice says 1943, the renewal would need to be done in 1971, making this a late renewal. Late renewal..pd

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Poster: ggshubin Date: Jul 21, 2012 10:38am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Arsenic and Old Lace

Hmmm, I'll have to go borrow my father-in-law's copy again and see what the copyright notice says on the film itself. Thanks!

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Poster: billymays55 Date: Jul 21, 2012 12:39pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Arsenic and Old Lace

wow! looks like you are onto something. I found 2 different titles one with no notice and one with a 1942 notice. that is 2 years early

that is a nice find Rachel

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Poster: ggshubin Date: Jul 21, 2012 1:07pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Arsenic and Old Lace

Really? Wow! That is amazing. Thank you! I'm going to borrow one from Pop anyway and I'll post back what the date says.

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Poster: ggshubin Date: Jul 23, 2012 10:44am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Arsenic and Old Lace

Is that first shot you sent from the film or the trailer? I just took at look at our DVD, which was put out by Turner Broadcasting in 2000 (I think), and it had the correct copyright date on it. What does that mean? Why would yours have a different date on it than mine? Now I'm confused.

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Poster: billymays55 Date: Jul 23, 2012 2:21pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Arsenic and Old Lace

well...I stand corrected!!! you are right, the notice on the film is attached and correct, so it is NOT pd. Looks like the trailer is :)

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Poster: ggshubin Date: Jul 23, 2012 3:06pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Arsenic and Old Lace

Oh well. I was really hoping that would be PD. :) Thanks for all the help though!

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Poster: jonc Date: Jul 23, 2012 3:42pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Arsenic and Old Lace

That doesn't look like a valid notice to me. It's missing the copyright symbol (© or (c)).

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Poster: billymays55 Date: Jul 23, 2012 4:37pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Arsenic and Old Lace

it don't need the copyright symbol it can just say copyright either is valid

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Poster: jonc Date: Jul 23, 2012 4:54pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Arsenic and Old Lace

A copyright notice must contain the word copyright, the copyright symbol, the year and the owner or author of the work. Without the symbol it's not a valid copyright notice.


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Poster: NicolaBattista.net Date: Jul 24, 2012 11:00am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Arsenic and Old Lace

I think it needs EITHER the symbol OR the word Copyright.

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Poster: mndean Date: Jul 21, 2012 9:41am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Arsenic and Old Lace

Have you checked the copyright date on the film?